Peace in the community can only exist when the members of the MJGlobal family feel safe when giving money to charities or any sort of business venture that is attached to the name of Michael Jackson, the image of Michael Jackson or any words attached to Michael Jackson, like “Neverland.”
There have been attempts to blacken MJJJP’s name since we started our investigation of Jennifer Jones of Applehead House, her Neverland Project and Female 500 pyramid schemes. This we can handle, however, what we cannot tolerate or allow to go unchallenged are the attacks on Rev. Catherine Gross.
The debt issue between Dr.Catherine Gross and Jennifer Jones was not included in our initial wordpress post because we had made promises to two people that we respect to keep it strickly about the two pyramid schemes. .
However, in all of “her” responses, whether it be directly from her or indirectly from her posted by someone else for her – she has mentioned the debt and attempted to throw doubt on Catherine’s reputation. A common ploy when one has been exposed is to deflect attention from the topic at hand and attempt to create doubt about someone else.
We cannot allow any sort of rumors that Jennifer Jones or her Applehead House members are perpetuating about Dr. Rev. Catherine Gross to go on without a public response.
They speak of peace and allege that we are “harming” and “hurting” the community and all the while they are scheming to destroy a woman who has done nothing but attempt to work with MJAdvocacy groups since June 25, 2009. Lucky for her, she has many contacts across the MJGlobal family, much like MJJJP, They KNOW her and they KNOW her heart and her commitment to the vindication of Michael, promoting his truth and his true legacy. The lies and the obfuscation of truth have forced MJJJP into a position to explain the issue between Rev. Gross and JJ to defend her good name.
The refund owed to Dr. Catherine Gross occurred because a trip that JJ was coordinating in late October 2011, was cancelled by JJ. Many private attempts were made to collect the refund from JJ to no avail and Rev. Gross stopped emailing when JJ became aggressive and called her “crazy” (emails are available.)
From Nov-Dec 2011 -Dr. Gross had three radio programs focusing on scammers within the MJ Community and not once did she ever mention JJ, Applehead House, (AH) however, two AH members posted nasty comments on the A Place In Your Heart blog talk radio program- These comments also automatically posted to their facebooks. We took the liberty of screenshotting them just in case they decide to delete them.)
Three Blog Talk radio programs occurred:
1)Nov 6th “Wolf Alert”
2) Dec 6th “Scam Bam Thank You Ma’am”
Why in mid-December were her AH members launching an attack on Rev. Gross during a program that was focusing only on Sofie Strandberg who defrauded the one OneRose4MJJ group, UNICEF and the children who didn’t get their vaccinations?
Why these nasty comments when she had never mentioned JJ or AH publicly?
Because this was the beginning of the manipulation to discredit the Rev. Gross by blowing smoke and casting doubt about her creditials.
At that time, Rev. Gross was still attempting to get her money back by using mediators and then finally had to resort to obtaining a lawyer. It wasn’t until this legal attempt failed that she asked MJJJP to intervene. JJ spoke to Jam and emailed her several times before she realized that she was a MJJJP team member.
Jam sent address of Rev. Catherine Gross to JJ through emails four times and JJ kept pretending she didn’t get it.. so who exactly was playing games?
Then Jam gets frustrated and tweets MJJJP
It is not clear why JJ was refusing to accept the address that Jam offered four times by Jan 5th, but JJ did arrange partial payment thru other mediators. A payment of $100 was processed to Rev. Gross pay pal from the “Female500”
JJ promised the remainder would be paid Jan 8th, as soon as the “new cc” was opened to pay her and the AH website bill. This remainder was not forthcoming on the weekend stipulated and so it seemed that more detour “games” were being played. Two months had already elapsed since Rev. Gross was promised a refund.
Then quite unexpectedly the debt was assumed by a third party.
The debt was paid by a person wanting to make peace- Rev. Gross’s addresses the issue of the repayment of Jan 12th 2011–
“For quite a long time a person owed me $500.00. I did all I could to gain it back, I gave my PayPal, instructions on how to use Western Union via telephone, my address sent by a professional firm, and it was also given on numerous occasions by my friends. I had been met with some extremely abusive language. So I surrendered the matter to professionals. (lawyer sent letter to JJ’s known address) Sadly, this person never did call me or say anything to me about the matter. The reason it was sad is because I would have said, “Don’t worry about it, just take your time”. I have said that many times before, so it would have been okay. For me there must be something positive that comes out of heartbreaking things. So, it became a testimony. I tried to teach others how not to have such things happen to them. At no time did I ever even mention this lady’s name. I didn’t do it because I don’t want anyone to subject me to condemnation neither do I care to do so to anyone else. I think it would have been fine. I share a testimony, and we move on. However, that did not happen. Ultimately, she did send me $100.00. As I said, something good should come out of such things.”
“The lady never paid me back, but a friend of mine, full of mercy and full of grace… just gave me the last $400.00 that this lady had promised. I expect they made an honorable agreement. Like I said, this worked out fabulously. This money was hard fought and struggled for so greatly that I longed for someone to be blessed by it.”
Ultimately, because it was such a struggle to get the money back, Rev. Catherine Gross thought that some good should come of it, so she donated it to several different charities.
Because MJJJP had opened up independent investigation regarding “Neverland Project” and the “Female500” pyramid schemes, we were positioned to post what we had uncovered. Part of the expose detailed this CG/JJ refund issues with ALL of the emails to be posted but the debt being paid changed our approach.
Since, the debt was paid, MJJJP promised the mediators who had been involved that there would be no mention of CG/JJ money issue in our expose. We are honest women and our word is our bond so we did NOT mention this issue at all in our initial wordpress post. Yet, in her eagerness to prove us wrong – JJ’s response made through Laurie Tuller (LT) – SHE herself brought up the issue.
“The person that started all of this – has been paid her reimbursement from a trip that a few of us were to attend and were ALL reimbursed immediately. And, had this person who started this NOT been playing such ridiculous games that SHE contacted ALL of us about – so we are privy to WHAT REALLY happened – then she would have been reimbursed right away as well and she knows it and so do some in this community who have not spoken out. BUT, WE ARE SPEAKING OUT as this has gone on LONG ENOUGH!” We addressed the lies asserted in this response – point by point in our twitlonger response of Jan 25th.
Why would someone who was due money play games to get it back? It isn’t logical. All Rev. Gross did was to ask for her money back, just like everyone else that JJ claims were reimbursed immediately. Asking for a refund for a cancelled trip and giving several options to pay it back is hardly “playing games.”
JJ asserts in her Jan20th twitlonger to MJfam:
“So, Val and Mary of Cadeflaw and anyone else that wants this to end – will you PLEASE tell MJJP and Catherine Gross to END THIS NOW? To take down the horrible posts and stop the comments.”
Again, JJ brings up CG in an attempt to tie her into this investigation, but CG is not spearheading this issue- additionally and more important to NOTE:
We have not been asked to take down our comments, nor our posts by these Admins and they have not removed their twitlongers and posts because all that has been stated is TRUE, and they support getting to the bottom of this pyramid scheme disguised as a “business plan”
An Admin wrote to JJ-
“I have know of you & your scheme since early last year. It was brought to my attention by a personal friend who you contacted privately on a fansite. She forwarded me an email sent by you containing documents outling your “Buy Back Neverland” business plan. After reading the doc’s a red flag was raised. It was blatantly obvious this was a Pyramid scheme which is illegal & which is a federal offense. There r no manufactured or manipulated lies here or slander. How can there be when the proof sits before us? A scheme is a scheme. MJJJUstice did right to be this to awareness, especially in light of recent events, but they did not mention names real or otherwise. You came forward & claimed it voluntarily as ur own. ”
This Admin even suggested a resolution to this issue to JJ:
“You say u r still working on and have changed the plan since its initial draft. Show the fan community the plan as it is now. Put to rest the fears & suspicions. Would that be so hard to do if it’s legitimate…?”
This “wouldn’t be so hard to do if it’s legimate” – but alas, 12 days have passed and JJ produces not one single piece of evidence that she has a “revised” legimate plan. Nothing. In fact, while awaiting this information we received the 2011 Brochure that she distributed all of last year. Hours have been spent writing twitlongers, tweeting, spinning and weaving by talking to different admins and accusing MJJJP and Catherine Gross of malfeasance for exposing this plan, could have been better spent producing a legitimate plan.
Neverland is not for sale and by all accounts of legal documents it would appear the MJEstate owns 87.5% share of the property. She hasn’t produced a single link to show that is for sale.. secretly or otherwise.
The only thing she’s produced is rumor about Rev. Catherine Gross who is in NO WAY involved in this “Neverland Project” investigation.
In fact, she was never involved in the investigation at all. Budsgirl and JamLoveChange initiated the investigated once we ran across Bonnie Cox’s blog, which led us to her Neverland Project & Female500.
The bully tactics and aggression towards Rev. Gross is evident in the email correspondence between CG/JJ and in the remarks made by Applehead House members on Dec16th link given above. Also, we will gladly post those emails if this bad-mouthing of the Reverend, whose credentials are confirmed and attested to by the State of Illinois, continues. It’s curious that JJ keeps crying “slander” when in fact she is perpetuating a defamation of Rev. Catherine Gross’s reputation.
Also, it is completely hard to fathom why JJ would offer a job position of “Education Specialist” to Rev. Gross on Jan. 24th if she believes her to be “crazy” and her members believe her to “a fake” and that she’s “pathetic” and they questioned where she got “her dr. degree” as far back as Dec.16th. Doesn’t this baffle the logical mind?
Pls see this job offer:
These attacks on Rev. Catherine Gross’s character have taken place as far back as mid-December and we may assume that they are continuing under the sealed walls of the Applehead House. These tactics are just one more example of the subversive nature of JJ and her group and the way they manipulate facts. These attempts are merely to deflect the attention of the MJGlobal family from the real issue of the pyramid schemes.
Please be sure to read our two posts listed below in Sources.
We want peace in our community, but Rev. Catherine Gross said it best:
“For the people who want peace in the community, you have my compassion. However without truth, there may be no community”
Twitlonger Jan 11th MB posted for JJ http://tl.gd/f9c1kd
Twitlonger Jan 11th MJ to CG/JJ DD note http://t.co/M2WgdF9q
Twitlonger Jan 12h CG http://tl.gd/f9he52
Twitlonger Jan 18th JJ to MJJJP http://tl.gd/fd3lak
Twitlonger Jan 20th LT for JJ- http://tl.gd/febejj
Twitlonger Jan 20th VO to JJ http://tl.gd/fel140
Twitlonger Jan 20th JJ to VO- http://tl.gd/femm3s
Twitlonger Jan 25th MJJJP to JJ http://tl.gd/fhdugd
Twitpic of Female500–
Pls read post and comments
Pls read post and comments
We will address Shirl Moore’s allegation of losing $500, JJ’s refund policy, room rates, the all inclusive “travel package” as well as JJ’s tweets.